Mission Impossible?

Alpha Question MarkLast night, after sharing a meal with our Alpha participants, I attended the second of four dialogue sessions on homosexuality. A couple of years ago the General Synod of the Reformed Church in America mandated that dialogue sessions around this issue occur throughout the denomination before the matter is allowed to be discussed again in 2009. While it seemed like a good idea before I attended the first meeting, it now feels more like “Mission Impossible.” There are too many people and there is simply not enough time to even begin to discern what the key issues are, much less actually dialogue around those issues.

There are so many issues: Is homosexual orientation a sin, or is it simply a characteristic or preference? How does one come to experience same-sex attraction? Is it genetic, environmental, a choice; are their “spiritual forces” at work (or a combination of two or more of these)? Should we distinguish between same-sex attraction and same-sex behavior ?  If either or both of these is a sin, what weight do we give to it? Is it a sin like overeating, or is it more like adultery or even murder? Should congregations be legislating around this issue, or simply allow each individual Christian to listen to their own conscience? Should the denomination take a definite stand and discipline pastors, congregations and classes who don’t comply, or allow for diversity of belief and practice?

What about within each congregation — should gays and lesbians be welcomed into our worship settings? Do they need to stop engaging in a homosexual lifestyle in order to become members? Or do we draw the line at the point of their becoming a teacher or leader, or a deacon or elder, or becoming a pastor? (For example, many African churches allow men who had more than one wife before becoming Christians to keep their wives and children, but don’t allow them to become leaders in the church.)

Then there is the stance we take towards legislation in the public square, where issues like gay marriage, insurance for gay partners and other gay rights come into play. Should non-Christians be required to live according to moral standards that require a biblical underpining, especially those that may be difficult to live out without the power of the Holy Spirit? Or should moral restrictions involving homosexual behavior be viewed as ”universal laws,” as in the case of incest, pedophilia, theft or murder?

I could go on. Even if we could agree on all the theological and theoretical aspects of this issue, there would still be all the practical aspects to work out. It’s not like you can take your stand on one of the issues (for example, how a person comes to be gay), and then all the other issues automatically sort themselves out. I say all this for a couple of reasons: first, to help all of us recognize the number and complexity of the issues surrounding same-sex attraction; and second, to encourage all of us to be praying for our denomination. There is a decent chance that this issue could split us apart.

“But pastor, where do you fall on these issues?”

You would have to ask that.

Do you have a week?

Rather than try to give my thoughts on each of the matters I raised, I’d rather quote a “middle position” advocated by Robert Gagnon, whose analysis of the biblical, psychological and sociological aspects of homosexual orientation and practice I very much respect and resonate with:

Liberals are concerned that gays and lesbians be treated with love and respect.

Conservatives are concerned that the Bible’s opposition to homosexual practice be upheld.

The view that will best bridge this divide and result in a win-win situation is to maintain a two-sex requisite for marriage while reaching out in love to reclaim those who engage in homosexual practice — showing empathy for the difficulty of living with persistent same-sex attractions, readily forgiving every back-step that is repented of, eagerly restoring such a one to the community of faith, providing support groups for mutual encouragement, and meeting needs for intimacy and affirmation from persons of the same sex through close same-sex, non-erotic friendships.

Without nitpicking, I’d say that this pretty closely expresses what for me would be the ideal response to people struggling with same-sex attraction.

Are we there as a congregation? I think we’re close to being there in our response to addicts, though I’m sure that even here we have a ways to go. While addiction isn’t an exact parallel, I think it does offer a helpful analogy. In my experience, many cases of addiction, much like many cases of same-sex attraction, involve a combination of genetic disposition, environmental factors, personal choice and spiritual forces. I think almost all of us were very moved when Dennis stood in front of our congregation a couple of weeks ago and shared his struggles with his addictions. I was proud of you when you gave him a standing ovation. I hope that the time will come when a person who struggles with same-sex attraction will be able to elicit the same response from our congregation — that we’ll have the same compassion, forgiveness, admiration and commitment to doing everything we can to support and encourage that person’s growth in Christ. If I were to hazzard a guess, I think you would respond to a person struggling with same-sex attraction in the same way you responded to Dennis. I look forward to when the Lord will test us.

The reason I say that is because people struggling with same-sex attraction are some of the most hurting people in our churches. They have had to live with so much self-judgment and condemnation from others that their wounds go very, very deep. Because they don’t feel free to share their struggles with other believers, their pain is compounded by an intense loneliness. Brothers and sisters in Christ, I want to be there for them. I want us to be there for them. I want them to know and sense that BRC is a place where they will not be condemned, even while they struggle to become free from whatever desires and behaviors have them in their grip. Most if not all of us know what it means to be in the grip of something. I hope we can join them in moving together into the grip of God’s grace — the grace that forgives and the grace that empowers. That’s the kind of church I want us to be. That’s the kind of church I see us already becoming, for which I am grateful to God.

What if people come to us and say, “We don’t believe what we’re doing is sin. Nor do we believe our homosexual orientation is a form of brokenness. In fact, we believe that God made us this way by design.” My counsel at this point is for us to deal with that bridge when we come to it. What we can decide right now is to show respect, to listen, and to learn from these folks, and look for areas where we can agree, while acknowledging areas where we disagree. In fact, we can begin to do that with people within our congregation who right now have differing views on this issue. What all this means in relation to church membership or involvement in leadership may only come clear as we talk and live with each other. Is this an area like infant vs. adult baptism or pacifism vs. just war theory where we can agree to disagree? Or is this one of those issues where more definite lines need to be drawn, especially when it comes to church leadership? While I have thoughts and impressions around these issues, they aren’t cast in stone. I trust and hope that the Spirit will lead us, and that this too will be an important, even constructive part of the journey we share together as God’s people, though there may be confusing and painful turns in the road along the way.

I welcome your feedback, either as a comment on this blog, through an email, or in person. As I interact with other pastors and churches, I feel so very grateful to God that you are the community he led me to.

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7 Comments on “Mission Impossible?”

  1. Steve LaPlante Says:

    I thought this was an excellent post Rich. It was very thought provoking and well presented the various issues in a small space. It’s disturbing but in my life I’ve noticed some people equalizing homosexuality with pedophilia. Two very different things! I know my position isn’t likely to be the popular one but I don’t mind being a lightening rod on this issue. I’m not a member so perhaps it would be easier for some to espouse different views toward me than towards our church leaders. There is a quote I have hanging on my fridge by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.” It suits boths sides of any issue. I don’t believe another person’s sexuality is any of my business. We are all the children of God. Are we not supposed to love one another? Who are we to judge another? I give genetics more weight than environment. I suspect that the overwhelming majority of gays and lesbians could no more change their orientation than they could the color of their skin. I don’t profess to understand same sex attraction, I don’t understand some different sex attractions. I am heterosexual but that shouldn’t matter to anyone. I’m not attracted to ALL females, in fact I’m only romantically interested in one person. Why is it so hard to accept that the select few someone else is attracted to could be of the same sex. We are all different. I believe God deliberately made us that way, perhaps to test our compassion. Could He have been wrong? Could He have made mistakes? I think not. Why not look at what is right with others instead of deciding what, in our opinion, might be wrong? How arrogant would it be of me to forgive gays and lesbians? Imagine going up to someone in church and telling them that you’ve decided to forgive them when no trespass has been given. I want to act compassionately toward everyone, no labels, no judgements, no holier than thou attitude. The children of God, how should we treat them??

  2. David Santiago Says:

    I’m been thinking of this blog since I read it last night. I personally know many gay & lesbian people, who am I or anyone in this or any congregation to judge these or anyone. The life of Jesus revolves on people he knew that were going to fall and yet did not pass judgement on them in fact still loved them and encouraged them to go and make more disciples. I don’t think anyone should be looked at different even if they are gay or want to become a member of the church. I do believe the Holy Spirit has the power to do great things within a person even as to change them the same way He has changed and still changing me, and all of us no matter what the situation. Let’s be blameless and show cosideration for men, cause we were just like them with our own struggles before He saved us within. We were disobedient deceived and enslaved to our sin, but He saved us not on the basis of men. Thanks to his mercy our regeneration begins. What would Jesus say if a gay person approached him, I think he would come up with a creative parable as he always does. And another parable to keep people from judging. I pray as the body of Christ we model his life and reference the Bible to follow him right. We are all a reflection of his beautiful church, so let us represent Him with our words and our beautiful works, no matter what or who lies ahead…

  3. Sharon Scheenstra Says:

    David, I love that picture of Jesus coming up with a creative parable for the gay person who has approached him, and then another parable for the people looking on. That points out to me Jesus’ habit of always looking each of us full in the face with great compassion and also with deep insight and the power to change, help, heal, and transform — on level after level after level. It reminds me of the song we sing to Jesus: “Everything You touch You change, and we’ve all been changing.”

  4. Rob Says:

    My mind reels whenever this topic comes up. I think that Rich’s assertion that it’s complex is so important.

    Lately, one of the aspects of this issue that seems to strike me most as I consider the issue in general and more specifically in the church, is its relationship to sin. I have become fairly certain that “sin” is not a popular idea or term, either in the world or the church. For me, one of the things that has characterized our congregation over the past few years is that our discussions about our lives in Christ include the topic of sin, in a manner that I consider to be both courageous and humble.

    I may be wrong, but I sense that many of us would rather avoid the word sin when it comes to homosexuality. Again, my reasoning might not be accurate, but I suspect that for many of us, our discomfort is born from the fact that we know and love people, very good people, who are homosexual. I believe that our desire to love these people, regardless of what is happening in their lives, is a very Christ-like response. I would even go beyond saying that it is our calling to suggest that such love and kindness from Christians towards any person, is evidence of the Spirit at work within us.

    But I have a growing unsettled feeling about the idea that loving people who live with same sex attraction means that we would avoid saying that same sex activity is outside of the boundaries of God’s design for human sexuality. (Do you see what I just did? I used a whole bunch of words to say something that I might have just summarized as “sin,” because writing that word felt too strong.)

    I think that Rich is right, there is not one key question that will unlock our understanding or help us make decisions about our course of action related to this complex issue, but I respectfully suggest that we should consider this question: Is homosexual activity outside of the boundaries of God’s design for human sexuality and relationships?

    I respectfully suggest that this is a critical question BECAUSE of our desire to love people in a Christ-like manner.

    One of the most difficult aspects of discussing the issue of homosexuality is that there seems to be no analogy that works. Every comparison that I have heard used to discuss this issue eventually breaks down. And many of the analogies can be offensive. At the risk of offending or making a poor connection, I will attempt to explain why answering this question can be an important part of our call to love and support people who experience same sex attraction.

    If someone comes to us with an addiction, we love them, but we also want them to get well. We would want to help this person get away from the behaviors that we understand to be unhealthy.

    If a single, teenage girl comes to us pregnant, we love and support her, but at the same time we acknowledge that her circumstances will make her life very difficult. We would help her to carry on in light of her current situation, but we would also discourage her from behaving in a way that would cause a recurrence of the circumstances.

    If someone battling anorexia came to us, our hearts would break, and we would work hard to help this person overcome the behaviors and the emotional distortions in their life that are so destructive.

    Yes, we would love these people, but because we would also see their lives in terms of their need for healing; we would not want to see them unchanged. Like it or not, this is a judgement call. We don’t like to feel as though we are judging, but we do it all of the time when it comes to other problems. Yes, we love and support the people in those circumstances, but we are much more comfortable saying, “This is not what God had in mind for anyone.”

    Finally, here’s my concern where homosexuality is concerned. If this is not what God had in mind for any of us, we need to be able to say it, otherwise, we will never be able to help people heal and grow.

    Consider this, if someone were to come to us and say, “I have struggled with this all of my life and I want to be free,” would we respond with little more than, “we don’t judge you, God loves us all”? One of the questions that a person in such circumstances would want to have answered is this, “Is it sin? Should I even want to be free?” I think that we need to be able to say that we have thought about it and prayed about it, and “Here’s what we think God has said to us…”

  5. Steve LaPlante Says:

    http://www.religioustolerance.org/dixon_03.htm

    http://www.someone-to-talk-to.net/new_page_15.htm

    http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:jJ0-n6QOM3QJ:fculittle.org/sermons/Bible_and_Homosexuality.pdf+jesus+talks+about+homosexuality&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=14&gl=us

    If anyone is interested, I found these 3 sites informative. Rich, I can see why the General Synod discussions could get bogged down. There’s a lot that can be said. Everyone’s opinion is important. It’s nice to see the interaction. Lots of intelligent respectful discourse, what more could anyone want? Sharon, I too liked David’s idea of the two parables. I’ve considered what Jesus might have said but I come up empty. Rob, I think many are uncomfortable with just saying it is sin because there is doubt in their hearts that it is or they’re uncomfortable judging another. The analogies are about forms of “brokenness”. I agree supporting analogies might be impossible but I think it’s more because this isn’t a situation where something needs to be “fixed”. What is normal for us isn’t necessarily normal for others and vise versa. Normal is defined from our own unique perspectives. Who’s to say that any individual’s version of normal is superior or inferior to our own. Lately I’ve gotten into the habit, when asked how I am, of saying I’m normal for me. Unless they’re hurting someone, we could just let people be normal for them. Help those who ask for it however we can and accept everyone else.

  6. Bobbie Says:

    Rob, Your words are just how I feel, I just don’t know how to word it, so thank you very much for your input.

  7. L Says:

    This is a tough issue and I applaud you all for stepping up and entering into the discussion. I feel compelled to toss my two cents in for what they are worth. I feel Rob has done such a wonderful job it is hard for me to add anything but I feel I should try. I feel the issue itself really is not a complex one. Bottom line - go to the word. What does it tell us. It tells us what is sin and what isn’t. It tells us what we are called to do as well and what we are not to do (let he who is without sin cast the first stone). I don’t know about you but I can’t even pick-up a pebble!We all fall short, we all sin. How we handle it maybe complex, although it should not be either. But perhaps in this world where even the church hesitates to say the word s-i-n and we forget that the Devil still has a stake in all of this and because the media sugar coats everything until we blindly accept everything and anything and since we probably all know and love someone who lives a gay or lesbian lifestyle it is difficult to know how to handle it. We first have to agree what is sin and then decide do we love enough to share the Good News and risk the loss of our relationship - though they might ultimately gain a greater relationship. I can tell you what not to do having experienced being called a sinner (which yes I was) and told I was going to go to hell by an oh so helpful Sunday School teacher and church member. Admittedly I sinned and it was a doozy but had I only had this church lady and her helpful words where would I be now? If I only had her words I would be going to hell. I would also feel ashamed, worthless, unsaveable (and I did for a long time). But that is not the end of the story as she thought/said. I had folks around me who knew the words of Jesus not just one or two words (like sin and hell) and knew how to share his love and forgivness. I know that I sinned (yes, I did need to hear that)but I also know that I am forgiven (I really needed to hear that). I know that He loves me (and this even more). I know that I fall short, but I try. One last thought if someone does not share the teachings of the Bible with a person then that person has no choices. I would think in a world where free will is everything people would want to know what all of the choices are. Choose faith, choose love and what ever you decide choose your words carefully. No one is perfect. But we are all loved by Him.

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